Monthly Archives: March 2015

My 2 month, 8200€ fight against Bwin

As some of you know I stopped playing online poker a while ago.
As I moved to Prague I opened this poker account to find bad players to play with, I set my country of residence set to Czech Republic (Bwin doesn’t accept Finns) and started printing money.

After Praha was over I ended up with 8201€ in my account. However they charged 3% on withdraws done by credit card so I just waited to get back to Finland so I can send out my rental contract as a proof of residency.

Yes, I know that I am a bit of a nit. I had that much money in there because I didn’t want to take my money in an out.

I decided to get back to it in January when I have an apartment here and can proof my country of residence. That I need to do in order to change my banking country that I need to do in order to get 0% fee. It makes sense to save 246€ (That’s 12% interest!), just let it be while I travel in the world.

I come back to Finland, change my details, post the documents required and took a nice comfortable position in my chair waiting for all my money. And then..

I get this:

worlddeservestoknowLike WTF!
I had done a test withdrawal to try to screen that there were not going to be any problems. They didn’t have issues with me withdrawing a smaller amount of money of course…

So I sent them an answer.
Probably not the most solid response from me but whatever. This is what sent back:

So you just decide to close my account and say that no withdrawals can be made?

“We regret to inform you that no withdrawal can be performed from your account.”

Sounds like a solid business. I wan’t my money back and I don’t understand the reasons why would my account be closed?

I have been playing at Bwin since I wanted to deal with an honest game provider, I feel a bit let down at the moment.

“We would kindly suggest you review the communication you have received regarding the involved issue and contact the dedicated Customer Service team for any further information.”

Well. There hasn’t been that much communication. If I send something to support it takes a week to get a response. You got all the documents you wanted and then just decide to close my account. Do you still wan’t something?

How do I get my account re-opened / my money back?

 

I waited 3 weeks without a response.
So I have 8200€ there and they don’t even bother to email me back…
I was quite sure that that was it. I wasn’t going to hear about them. My money was gone. However I sent a second email.

 

“We regret to inform you that no withdrawal can be performed from your account.”

3 weeks ago I received this message from you. I messaged back and

I waited 3 weeks and didn’t get a response from your customer support!

You just decided to close my account and say that no withdrawals can be made?

I don’t understand the reasons why would my account be closed? I am sure I haven’t broken any of TOC’s

I have been playing at Bwin since I wanted to deal with an honest game provider, I feel a bit let down at the moment.

“We would kindly suggest you review the communication you have received regarding the involved issue and contact the dedicated Customer Service team for any further information.”

There hasn’t been that much communication. If I send something to support I might get a response in a week to get a response. You got all the documents you wanted and then just decide to close my account. Do you still wan’t something?

worlddeservestoknow2Pulling shit out of their asses.
Yes this is true, early 2007 I got busted for playing underage but on a different poker site!
It’s not this account, it has nothing to do with this case at all. I e-mailed this:

Account “saaboh” on partypoker doesn’t have anything to do with this bwin account.

These are 2 separate accounts with 2 different skins.

I have provided proof that I am of the age claimed.
Born x.x.1989 and wasn’t underage at the time of creation of this account.
This account is created with correct data after I have reached the minimum age and the blocking of my account is unfounded.

According to the TOC: ”

You may only use the Services if You are 18 years of age or over (or such other higher minimum legal age in Your jurisdiction) and it is legal for You to do so according to the laws that apply in Your jurisdiction.
I have provided proof of this in the form of ID.

Another 2 weeks goes by and I don’t hear about them.
Nice customer service they have.
I thought I should contact their licensor or something but there’s not much I can do.

I had a friend who got fucked by a shady poker site and you could see it bothered him, I don’t think he cared about the money. He cared that he got fucked.
And I understand him very well because good hetero men don’t like to get fucked…
On some days this definitely affected my overall mood a bit 🙁 just the injustice of it, not so much the money.

So weird and inconsistent though to all of a sudden after 2 weeks of waiting to receive this message.

worlddeservestoknow3As you read it. First it looks bad, close your account… Like same old, same old…
And then you read the rest.
As I don’t want to deal with these bastard the not allowed to register a new account is quite fine with me.
Anyway quite a sweet way to open the day 😉

Lesson:
If these poker sites want to put their big dick in your ass there’s not much you can do about it.
Be careful.

 

PS. Just got a business mentor and joined a mastermind group of ambitious entrepreneurs.
It’s time to get some sales.
But more on that later 🙂

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How rich am I really?

People often ask me how much money I made from poker.

Well.

I made enough so that if I wanted I could retire today

I could live quite an average life somewhere far away and sunny

In countries like Cambodia or Bangladesh.

To be honest, I am a bit worried about the 6-7% growth rates in these countries.
GDP growth brings inflation with it.

Instead I might choose some other place with less of a developing economy.
Like Swaziland in southern Africa might be a solid choice.

Not too many retirees ruining the scenery.
Chill out with my multiple wives.
Sunny weather, yet far enough from the equator to give little mercy for my white ass.

But, why am I talking about moving to f*cking Swaziland.

It just illustrates my thinking that for a long time I though this way.

That money is just something you buy freedom with.
And it’s so scarce you have to accumulate every penny and protect. It’s hard to make.
Something that allows you to retire because making money is painful and always sucks.

Why am I thinking this?
I don’t even want to retire.

It’s easy to feel like money is really abundant when you’re just making a lot of it.
Printing it playing poker.
Then when you’re not, you’re kinda dropped from the sky back to ground level.

Especially when you surround yourself with poor people like I did in Thailand, Vietnam & Cambodia. These scarcity mindsets are infectious.
It hammers in to you that money is scarce because a dollar is a lot of money over there.
It’s easy to buy in to. A lot of backpackers (me included) were being really cheap. I’m sure that when they go back home to their wealthy countries they are not the same there, they just spend it up.

Same thing happened to me a little bit.
It doesn’t make any sense.

Wealth beliefs!

I’ve been working on how I think about money a bit.
It’s funny to dive deep in your mind and try to figure out why you’re thinking and beliefs are the way that they are. Dive deep in to your mind.
You start to unlock these beliefs little by little.

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Why do I perceive money to be so scarce?
It’s probably one of these things that I inherited from my parents.

Some things happened like 20 years ago and they are still running the show.
And I have all these beliefs based on these things.
I had no idea why they even existed.

We tend to think we’re these rational beings whose thinking is all logical.
When it’s more likely to just be that random events happened to you and you became you.

Most people never question their beliefs.
We are just looking to strengthen our existing beliefs.
Like a lens blocking out everything else.
If you don’t question your beliefs they tend to stay the same..

I really needed to work on these.
I felt such scarcity when it came to money.
If it’s this hard to make money, how could I ever become an entrepreneur?
All that would be left would be to be a company man. Make the dollars per hour.
It would be a huge limiting belief, being an employee would be the only option.
There would be nothing else.

It’s quite exiting. The more I have dived in to this.
The more I think about it.
The more I start to just be certain that business can be done.
It’s not impossible by any means; if I just stick at it success is eventually more likely than failing.

It’s just a complete mindset shift in two months.
My plan making my goals for 2015 was just to grind some passive income online affiliating or something.
Now I have 5 or so ideas I could do to probably get in to €50k+ years.
Next step: Execute

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